Re: Re-rigging the P-19 - Marketing paranoia rampant!

William Longyard (longyard@ix.netcom.com)
Wed, 24 Feb 1999 01:50:43 +0000


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West Wight Potter Website at URL
http://www.lesbois.com/wwpotter/
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Bernard Moitissier, a blue water sailor to be sure, completely avoided
stainless wire in favor of galvanized wire saying that it was less
brittle, and therefore more likely to survive shock loads.

Glad to hear any opinions on this.

Bill Longyard

SR500F@aol.com wrote:
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> West Wight Potter Website at URL
> http://www.lesbois.com/wwpotter/
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> I have also read "Understanding Rigs and Rigging" and had the same concern as
> yourself. Even the author finds fault in each rigging system he described - he
> mentions the same concerns about corrosion in the axially crimped components
> that our pal SF mentions in his post .
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> I have rationalized it all as follows:
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> 1x 19 rigging wire is the best and strongest stuff in a straight pull.
> However, it doesn't like to be formed into a tight radius, is stressed
> unevenly, and is weaker in the area of the bend. Indeed, even the tiny 3/32
> 1x19 wire used on my P-15 cannot be bent tight enough to even hold the
> thimbles tightly.
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> The right wire to be used with thimbles and crimps is the flexible 7x19. This
> does indeed work well around the terminations - I've made several tack
> pendants for my jib (courtesy of the self-serve equipment at my local West
> Marine store) of different lengths. However, 7x 19 wire is not as strong and
> is a little more stretchy than 1x19.
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> So we have a stronger wire that's weakened a bit at the ends or a weaker wire
> that crimps nicely. I've concluded that it's more or less a wash. I think we
> can assume, since boats larger and heavier than the Potters use the same size
> rigging, that the standard stuff has plenty of margin in normal use.
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> I lurked on the Catalina 22 list a while back and within the first couple of
> days there was a long thread on broken masts - most initiated by standing
> rigging failures. I've followed the Potter list for almost a year and I can
> recall only one lost mast - That being that P-15 in the Sea of Cortez - and
> that was initiated by a pop rivet pulling out, not by wire breakage.
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> If I was going to re-do the standing rigging of my P-15, rather than going
> with expensive terminations on 1 x 19 wire, I think I'd use 1/8" 7x19 (one
> size larger), thimbles and crimps. That would have similar performance, I
> believe, and I could make the parts, and any subsequent replacements required,
> myself, which appeals to me.
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> Best regards,
>
> Dave Kautz
> P-15 #1632 Tilly Lucy
> Palo Alto, CA