Re: How much Flotation? And Where?

Carol Gula (cgula@innet.com)
Wed, 5 May 1999 16:13:41 -0400


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Hi Judy, et al:
The old rule of thumb for figuring the minimum floatation was used an amount
(figured @ 58#/cu. ft) equal to 100% of the ballast and 40% of the rest of
the designed displacement. This should allow the average boat to float
regardless of the amount of water aboard.

Also, an oft overlooked point in adding floatation is the upward force
generated by the buoyancy of the foam when the foam is submerged as in a
turtle maneuver. If the foam can break free of its restraints and bob to
the surface all by itself it will. I don't know if the cabin liner in a
Potter is strong enough to restrain 200-300 # of buoyant force; so I'd think
carefully just where I was putting additional floatation.

Regards,
Mac Davis; WWP19#804, Kelpie, Aripeka, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: JBlumhorst@aol.com <JBlumhorst@aol.com>
To: wwpotter@tscnet.com <wwpotter@tscnet.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: How much Flotation? And Where?

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>In a message dated 5/4/99 4:35:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>david_kautz@hp.com writes:
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>> Question #2: If a boat had a lot of addtional flotation, particularly
>> low in the boat as in the bilges and under the cockpit floor (places
>> where Bernie is proposing to add it), could that make the boat MORE
>> prone to turtling and more difficult to right once inverted. It seems to
>> me that if the boat was on it's side and was entering the cabin,
>> flotation in the bottom of the boat would actually _encourage_ the boat
>> to continue over into the inverted position whereupon the flotation
>> would make it very stable upside down.
>>
>> Would it be wiser to place flotation high in the boat, like behind the
>> cockpit seat backs to encourage a "right side up" attitude?
>>
>Hi David,
>
>I think you're on the right track here. A few books I've read have said
that
>positive floation should be located as high up as possible. If you can't
put
>it on the cabin roof (who can spare any of that precious headroom?!?) they
>recommend putting half on each side at the widest beam right under the
deck.
>That way, half of the total foam exerts a righting moment if the boat is
laid
>over 90 degrees on its side and swamped. If it's upside down, it will be
>easier to right it if you can just get it tipped over a little.
>
>As to how much, sea water weighs about 64# per cubic foot. My P19, weighs
>about 1275 and fully loaded with gear, weighs probably 1800#. So about 28
>cubic feet of foam should easily dispalce enough water to keep the boat
>afloat. Bruce at IM told me they put in more than that in the new boats
(32
>cubic feet maybe, I forget). In fact, less than 28 or 32 cubic feet will
do
>the job, since fiberglass is less dense than water (the boat itself
displaces
>water). I'm assuming the crew is wearing PFD's or has them on board and
>therefore requires no added flotation.
>
>When I bought my new/old P19, there was much more than 32 cubic feet of
>styrofoam in it. I measured the volume at the back under the cockpit, and
>under the quarter berths (where the newer boats have sizable shallow
lockers
>for storage) and figured out how much was in there. Then I removed quite a
>bit from under the vberth until the total was a little over 30 cubic feet.
>More than that just takes up valuable storage space without adding any
safety
>to the boat.
>
>Best,
>Judy B
>
>Judith Blumhorst, DC
>HMS18/P19 Fleet Cap'n, Potters Yachters
>1985 WWP19 #266 Redwing
>Sailing on SF Bay, CA
>(5-35 knot winds, 2-4' chop, 2-6' swells, and currents up to 6 knots)
>Visit <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/jblumhorst/HomePage/index.htm">Judy
B's
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>the Potter Yachters
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