Re: Honda 2hp 4 stroke - gearshift (fwd/neut/rev)?

Sam Finlay (Sam.Finlay@ey.com)
Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:50:03 -0400


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West Wight Potter Website at URL
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Hey gang,
FWIW, I'll have to come down on the side of simplicity. If I had a P-19
I might think differently, but a P-15 is something of a minimalist boat. While
I'd love F-N-R in an outboard, the extra weight/cost is hard to justify in
the smaller Potter. Besides rotating the powerhead isn't that hard.
Here's a case in point:
A few years ago we went sailing on Lake Anna and of course the wind
was nil. We were motoring to a destination not marked on the map and
had asked directions of a powerboater. (Never do that by the way. A short
distance in a bassboat turns out to be hours under sail.) Anyway we motored
into what turned out to be a very unfriendly marina and only then realized that
we'd have to back out. I'd never done it before but "nothing ventured etc." so
I loosened the clamp, re-started the motor, quickly spun it around
and out we backed. Piece of cake. It was so easy that I couldn't imagine
why I'd been dreading it.
For me an inconvenient reverse is worth the reduced weight (my aching back!),
lower initial cost and inevitable higher costs and busted knuckles when I break the
danged thing. Besides it's makes launch ramps so much more exciting!
Sam Finlay
P-15 Indomitable #1964
Luray, VA

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In a message dated 10/09/1999 3:07:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
krilll@hgfx.com writes:

> Just want to agree with S Fry -- I have a Honda 2hp, and wish
> mightily I had been given his advice. It's a great motor, but offers
> far less control of the boat than one with gears.

Here I go causing trouble again! I want to disagree with Leonard and Solar
Fry. First of all, the Honda 2's now have a transmission as an option.
Second of all, you don't need it.

If you learn to use the motor, it is not a big deal to back and control a
P-15 without the transmission. The key word here is, "learn" You have to
practice, just like you practice every other boating skill. Take the boat
out in a bay or any other calm body of water, away from piers, people and
pets and practice. It is no big deal. You can maneuver a P-15 in reverse by
spinning the motor just fine. You can back into and out of slips, up to and
away from moorings, etc.

A P-15 is a small boat and the more you can keep it simple, the better. As
far as I know, the Honda 2 is the lightest, simplest, most dependable four
stroke available. Perfect for the P-15. You can learn to handle it under
power and sail in some pretty rough conditions. If it's too hard to make the
effort to learn, perhaps you should get a larger, heavier motor and give up
the sailing performance. If you have that much difficulty learning to use
the motor, you probably don't care about the sailing performance anyway. You
then have an outboard motorboat that has an auxiliary sail rather than the
other way around.

I welcome all flames, but I sincerely believe that if you are afraid to back
up a 15 foot boat with an outboard without a transmission, you might be
better off going the powerboat route anyway.

Anybody ever try installing bow thrusters on a P-15?

Geoff
P-15 Lollipop
N. Lake Tahoe, NV

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