RE: Taking my boat to IM tomorrow for CDI/Genoa or Lapper

Dickerson, Richard (Richard.Dickerson@TTMC.TTUHSC.EDU)
Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:45:20 -0600


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I had the genoa and the CDI when I had my P15. I converted the jib but
never used it. The P15 needs the genoa to perform well in wind of less than
15 mph if you have more than one person aboard (MHO).
Richard Dickerson, Ph.D., DABT
Associate Professor, TIEHH and
Department of Pharmacology
Texas Tech Medical Campus
3601 4th Street
Lubbock Texas 79430
806 743 2425 xt 232
806 743 2744 fax

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> From: Andrew Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 1999 11:33 AM
> To: wwpotter@tscnet.com
> Subject: Re: Taking my boat to IM tomorrow for CDI/Genoa or Lapper
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> West Wight Potter Website at URL
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> Dave,
> You must have been reading my mind. I ordered my
> P15 yesterday and had meant to ask IM why there wasn't
> a "lapper in-lieu of Jib" option.
> Right or wrong I went with the CDI Furler. the
> budget could handle it and I felt it better to get it
> now than mess with sail modifications later. I also
> opted to get the Genoa track installed assuming that
> down the road I'll add a Genoa.
> I started thinking this morning that if I can Furl
> the Genoa why do I need a Jib in the first place. I'd
> just logged in to throw that question out to the
> experts when I read your reply below.
> So, if I get the Genoa, can I get away without the
> Jib. If yes or probably, and since I'm ordering new
> should I try and get a "Genoa in-lieu of Jib" from IM?
> The Potter should roll in pretty darn close to
> Christmas!
>
> Regards, Andy
>
> --- TillyLucy@aol.com wrote:
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> > Dave,
> > The standard jib on a Mk. II Potter is a lapper (the
> > foot of the sail reaches
> > past - overlaps - the mast). So your only choice, if
> > you want a larger sail
> > on your CDI, is to get the genoa. Makes sense to me,
> > anyway, roll it all the
> > way out when you want to maximize sail area, make it
> > smaller when you don't.
> > Some folks have said that sail shape will suffer
> > when the sail is reefed and
> > I think this is true on big boats where the roll can
> > get large and the
> > tension on the luff uneven. But the P-15 sail is so
> > small to begin with that
> > there really isn't much sail on the furler when it's
> > reefed. My old boat, a
> > 14 ft. high perforamance sloop called a Sesame had
> > roller furling and I never
> > had any issues with sail shape when reefed (I was
> > usually cold and wet and
> > hanging on for dear life). I disliked the furler
> > because it took extra time
> > to rig and was harder to transport. But we have
> > plenty of wind around here
> > and I have seldom wished for the extra sail area of
> > the genoa on my P-15. If
> > I needed a genoa regularly I think I'd like to have
> > it on a CDI like you've
> > described.
> >
> > Dave Kautz
> > P-15 #1632 Tilly Lucy
> > Palo Alto, CA
> >
> > In a message dated 11/2/99 11:41:14 PM Pacific
> > Standard Time, chrdvd@gte.net
> > writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Well I dumped my overkill Nissan 5hp 4 stroke
> > ( great motor but not for
> > > a p15) and am getting the CDI with Genoa
> > installed tomorrow. Being of
> > > limited sail knowledge, could someone explain to
> > me the difference between
> > a
> > > lapper and a Genoa. Would a Lapper work in a CDI
> > and would it be a better
> > > choice than a Genoa. I am looking to use the same
> > sail (no bow walks for
> > me)
> > > to pick up the light breezes and also reef to
> > make a nice jib replacement.
> > I
> > > will ask the folks at IM but thought I would get
> > some input from you guys
> > > and girls also. Also anyone with oars on p15
> > could you tell me the best oar
> > > length to get?
> > >
> > > Happy Sailing, Dave Lang P15 Hull#554 "Go West"
> > >
> >
> >
>
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