Thanks,
Paul Anstett
P19
Fargo
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> Hi Potter folk,
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> I've given the idea of a rear transom some thought.
> There are two ways to do it.
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> The first way is pretty snazzy. You'd mount stands
> on both port and starboard sides of the transom (to
> lift the traveller over the tiller), and then mount
> a piece of I-beam traveller track between the two
> stands. Then put a traveller car on the track, and
> run the main sheet from the traveller to the aft end
> of the boom and then to a swivel base with block and
> cam cleat in the middle of the forward edge of the
> traveller (Or you could run the mainsheet from the
> traveller to the boom end and then forward along the
> boom to the mast, around a turning block and back to
> the cockpit
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> Keeping the end-of-boom sheeting is good, because
> the load on the mainsheet is about 250# at the end,
> vs double that for mid-boom sheeting, and probably
> triple that for cabintop sheeting. You'd need some
> pretty massive mechanical advantage to handle that
> kind of sheet load (and of course, the blocks "feel"
> double that load so you'd need some very strong
> blocks)
>
> It's not technically difficult, but ready made parts
> would cost piles of boat bucks. Harken makes a pair
> of stands for the traveller track at about
> $400/pair, the track would be about $100, car about
> 150-300, etc. If you have more time than money, you
> could make the stands yourself out of wood and
> fiberglass to save the $400
>
> The other way to do it is to stretch a piece of
> strong line between the port and starboard sides of
> the transom and put a "brummel" block on it (I think
> that's what their called). Like a Laser dinghy is
> rigged. A brummel block is two blocks hooked
> together with the sheeves on the outside ends. One
> block rides on the traveller and the other is for
> the mainsheet. The main sheet goes from the end of
> the boom to the brummel block, back to the boom end,
> forward along the boom to some sort of cleating
> arrangement.
>
> For now, I settled for just one small improvement to
> the mainsheet arrangement. I don't like the lines
> that drag across the cockpit either, but, even more
> than that, I don't like the way there's so much
> friction when your sitting on the same side as the
> transom block with the becket. It's too hard to
> trim the main from that side when it's blowing, and
> it doesn't run freely in a light breeze.
>
> Here's what I did: I put a cheek block 3" or 4" aft
> of the swivel fairlead/cleat for the mainsheet. The
> mainsheet comes from the port block on the transom,
> thru the cheek block, and then forward to the swivel
> cleat. It makes for a very fair lead and much less
> friction. I also put over-sized ball bearing blocks
> (Garhauer Series 30's) on the transom to reduce
> friction.
>
> The check block ($11 from Harken; Delrin Ball
> Bearings and large diameter for low friction; no
> backing plate needed like on the cheek block for the
> reefing lines)is mounted on a 3/4" piece of
> marine-grade plastic to get it up high enough off
> the transom to lead fairly right into the swivel's
> fairlead. The cheekblock is not perfectly centered
> aft of the swivel, but a little towards starboard,
> so the sheet exits the cheekblock at a right angle
> to go forward to the swivel.
>
> I've finally finished re-rigging "Redwing" from
> front to back and top to bottom -- I think I'll
> leave the rigging alone for a while. I'm turning my
> attention to the cabin interior next. And to focus
> on getting more sailing in. We're going to put her
> in a slip for a month and try to get some after work
> sailing done. I won't be building a traveller in the
> foreseeable future.
>
> Best regards,
> Judy B
>
>
> In a message dated Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:31:23 AM
> Eastern Daylight Time, "Rob Pettibone"
> <rjpett@fwi.com> writes:
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> > Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 1:17 PM
> > Subject: P19 Traveler
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> > Has anyone put a mainsheet traveler on a P19.
> either cabin top or transom
> > mounted ? The stock P19 mainsheet control is
> pretty weak and I am looking
> > for ideas to upgrade to.
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> >
> > ______
> > I'm also interested in any info/suggestions
> regarding this idea or any other
> > main sheet arrangement that would keep the main
> sheet from crossing the
> > cockpit . I use the factory mainsheet arrangement
> and the main sheet
> > crosses the back 1/4 of the cockpit on any point
> of sail other than close
> > hauled. I've considered moving the 2 outboard
> transom blocks further
> > inboard?
> >
> > I'm also interested in alternate winch locations.
> Mine's mounted at the
> > back of the cockpit and the handle is always in
> the way in some manner or
> > other.
> >
> > Rob Pettibone
> > Ft. Wayne, IN
> > P-19 #1094 "Gail Marie"
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