--- Andrew Brown <agbrownn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bill,
> Thanks for the reply and congratulations on
> getting your new Potter!
> I'm jumping into this with out having seen a
> Potter 15 or 19 up close, I think I agree with you
> on
> the opening ports clashing with the P15's lines.
> Could
> you explain what the P15 has for vents and do you
> find
> it sufficient?
Andrew, the P-15 is so small that when the
companionway and the hatch are open, the air flows
freely. There is a small (4") vent hole (and a
scupper) at the bow.) If you are sleeping with your
feet to the bow and the hatch open, you are staring at
the stars.
> Since I don't have any sailing experience I'm at
> a
> loss on the pros/cons of the Furler. I wasn't sure
> of
> the cost/benefit it would be on a small boat like
> the
> P15, and there appears to be quite a difference in
> opinion.
Andrew, the key here is that you do not want to climb
up to the bow when at sea to change from a large jib
to a storm jib. The CDI reefer/furler gives you the
control in the cockpit to roll up the jib, say half
way, very easily. Then, if the wind backs off, you can
revert to the full sail very easily. If the wind
continues to build, and you are uncomfortable, you can
easily wind it in all the way. Again, without climbing
out on the deck. The jib downhaul amounts to a simple
line and block where you can bring the jib completely
down and hold it there on the fore deck. In a very
strong wind, even with the jib down, the jib can flap
around and in your way or actually affect the way you
control the boat. I don't have a furler on my P-15,
but I do on my Catalina 27. I plan to put one on the
P-15 because it will improve my ability to respond to
changing conditions more easily. The down side is that
the jib and the furler cost more than a simple down
haul line and block.
> Getting a 4 stroke for environmental reasons is
> a
> preferance of mine. I wasn't sure if the 2hp would
> power the P15 and didn't want to pay the price for
> the
> 5hp Honda. Part of my monetary hesitation in this
> whole matter is due to not knowing how much and what
> type of sailing I'm going to be able to do. If the
> 2hp
> will do the job it seems affordable from what I've
> been able to find on the WEB. Not too many sites
> with
> prices. I found Canadian site with a price around
> $560-$580. I'll have to look around locally.
Andrew, the 2hp Honda 4 cycle has plenty of power for
the P-15. My gut feel is that you will get better MPG
as well as less pollution. I downloaded all the
dealers in my area from the Honda site and called them
all. The prices ranged from $595 to $880 for the same
thing. The only option to consider is the centrifical
(sp?) clutch. It costs about $200 extra. I opted for
the "forward only" version with no clutch. It requires
a little planning when you start and fast fingers on
the throttle, but once you get the hang of it, it
works fine.
> Did you get the Lapper from IM? I don't see it
> on
> the option list. I've gotten the opinion that I'll
> probably want the Lapper or Genoa once I figure out
> some of the basics. I need to call IM but won't have
> time until Tuesday.
Andrew, no, I did not get the lapper. I just got the
standard jib. I will get one when I make the plunge on
the furler/reefer. I want the sailmaker to know ahead
of time that I plan to use roller reefing.
> A couple of other questions if I may? What are
> the
> mainsail slugs? Do I need these if I'm getting the
> Jiffy reefing system?
Andrew, normally, when raising your mainsail, you feed
the "bolt rope" (a rope sewn into the leading edge of
the mainsail) into a groove in the mast. The slugs are
little nylon cylinders which are attached to the
leading edge of the mainsail. You feed these little
babies into the mast groove instead of the bolt rope.
They make the sail slip up and down easier. This can
be beneficial when you are (jiffy) reefing the main
when the wind is too strong. I bought the slugs and
shackles from Sailrite, and plan to install them soon.
> Do you feel the mast crutch is worth the $58 or
> should I try and fabricate something
> myself?
Andrew, either way is fine. I like the crutch from IM.
Perhaps you can negotiate and get them to throw it in
as part of your deal.
> I got a long winter coming up to do that
> sort
> of thing.
> Right now my anticipated config is as follows:
>
> P15 - White Hull, trailer w/tiedowns and tounge
> wheel,
> Lapper (if available), Jiffy Reefing system, topping
> lift, standard interior cushions, bow/cockpit rails,
> boarding ladder, motor mount, kickup rudder, furler,
> boom vang, mast crutch, running/anchor/dome lights,
> battery tray, and oar locks. If I drop the furler
> I'll
> pick up the jib downhaul option.
> I don't know the etiquette of talking cost but
> IM
> is giving me $500 off the boat, the popular option
> discount is $1067, and I get $500 credit toward
> additional options. They're giving me full credit
> for
> the 3.5hp motor and the fabric cushion option. These
> are both in the popular option package config. I'm
> not
> much for dickering but I think I'm getting a fair
> deal? Unfortunately shipping is $700.
>
> thanks for your time and comments,
>
> Andy
>
Andrew, Sounds good to me!
Bill Boyer
>
>
> --- Bill Boyer <antares6527@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dear Andrew,
> > I just took delivery on a new P-15 this month.
> Here
> > are my thoughts: Forget the opening porthole, it
> > would
> > look funny; delete the Nisson 2 stroke and buy
> your
> > own Honda 2hp 4 stroke; get the lighting system;
> get
> > the CDI furler with the lapper jib; get slugs on
> the
> > mainsail; get a boom vang; get a mast crutch; get
> > oar
> > locks.
> > Happy Pottering.
> > Bill Boyer
> > Lil P-15 #2408
> >
> > --- Andrew Brown <agbrownn@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > West Wight Potter Website at URL
> > > http://www.lesbois.com/wwpotter/
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> > >
> > > Folks,
> > > I'm in the process of ordering a new Potter
> > and
> > > seek a little advice on how to spend my money.
> > > We are currently leaning towards the P15
> > > w/popular
> > > option pkg. IM is offering a $500 seasonal
> > incentive
> > > option credit. I'm thinking I should use this
> > money
> > > on
> > > items which the factory can probably do better
> > than
> > > I,
> > > especially if it involves making holes in a
> > > perfectly
> > > good boat. i.e. running/anchor/cabin lights, and
> > > opening ports. I doubt if I'll be overnighting
> or
> > > night sailing soon but better to have and not
> use
> > > than
> > > need and not have.
> > > Has anyone seen a P15 with the "opening
> ports"
> > > installed? I've seen pictures of Avid Sailor and
> > I'm
> > > curious how the rectangular shape will blend
> with
> > > the
> > > P15's sheer. Are there better ventilation
> options?
> > > My other thought is to blow it all on a CDI
> > Jib
> > > Furler which I could probably add myself if
> wanted
> > > or
> > > needed at a later date. IM gets $495 for this,
> any
> > > idea what this would cost after market.
> > > A final question about the Nissan OB's sold
> by
> > > IM.
> > > To bring down my initial cost I'm thinking of
> > > deleting
> > > the 3.5hp from the package and buying one next
> > > spring.
> > > Any comments on Nissan OB's quality and
> > aftermarket
> > > cost.
> > > Any other comments on configuring a new
> Potter
> > > will be most appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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