Re: anchors

Lee Page (megjac@prodigy.net)
Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:45:06 -0800


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West Wight Potter Website at URL
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I don't have much experience with mushroom anchors, but my sense is that if
they are large enough and heavy enough they are good for soft bottoms.
(Most of the referance I've come across has been in regard to permanent
moorings in soft bottoms, with a really heavy mushroom). I have not found
small ones very effective, or for that matter very handy.

Here-to-fore I've used a small to medium sized Danforth in hard sand
bottoms (at the "Big Lake" outside Marquette, MI) and in that kind of
bottom a Danforth is great. But less great in soft bottoms, I've been
told. The small Danforth is good for my P15 in Sacramento riverbottom
up-stream - but down-stream toward the delta, where the bottom is softer
it's harder to set, nor do I trust it very far- though so far it's held ok
in the current. I carry the Danforth in a bracket inside the transom (under
the tiller).

I bought a Fortress #11 - overkill for the P15, but if I move up sometime
to a larger boat I'll take it with it with me, and for the weight and easy
storage it's hard to beat. I bought it cheifly for its reputed holding
ability in soft mud. I used it two summers ago on L. superior in hard sand
bottoms, and it held like a rock in a couple of good blows in fierce surf.

Last fall I bought a third anchor I saw advertised in "Messing About in
Boats" called the "Bulwagga" which was touted to set quickly and hold in
grassy bottoms. It also looks to me as though it would be good in rock and
boulder bottoms. I have yet to but it to a test, other than my back yard
where it grabs immediately and digs in. Time will tell, but I think the
design looks very promising. My dealing with the
inventor/manufacturer/marketer were very cordial and their service very
good. It's not as easy to stow as the Danforth, but it's not difficult
either. I'm curious if any others have taken a look at this anchor - or
have had any experience with it. As I have an opportunity this summer to
really put it to a test I'll share the results.

I really don't have much occassion to worry about anchorage with the kind
of day sailing I do right now, but I have never felt really secure without
a good anchor on board (and chain - don't forget at least 6' of chain)
even in a row boat. Call it superstition.

Lee Page in Sacramento, CA
WWP #602, "Archaeopteryx"

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> From: SolarFry@aol.com
> To: DAVID_KAUTZ@HP-Sunnyvale-om5.om.hp.com
> Cc: wwpotter@tscnet.com
> Subject: Re: anchors
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 4:21 PM
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> West Wight Potter Website at URL
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> In a message dated 2/19/99 4:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DAVID_KAUTZ@HP-
> Sunnyvale-om5.om.hp.com writes:
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> << Subj: Re: anchors
> Date: 2/19/99 4:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From: DAVID_KAUTZ@HP-Sunnyvale-om5.om.hp.com
> To: wshurr@email.unc.edu
> CC: wwpotter@tscnet.com
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> West Wight Potter Website at URL
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> How heavy is the mushroom anchor you use with your Potter? I bought an 8

> lb. mushroom anchor to put inside a plastic "rocker stopper" with plans
to
> use that as a "lunch drogue". Do you think the little mushroom anchor
might
> actually hold the boat if set in mud (of which we have plenty in the
South
> SF Bay)
>
>
> Dave Kautz
> P-15 #1632, Tilly Lucy
> Palo Alto, CA
> >>
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> I have a 15lb mushroom anchor on my S13'. As lond as wind is under 5 MPH
and
> no current it holds OK. Out on ake it wont hold for beans with current
pulling
> toward the intracoastal... I have to use an 8Lb. Danforth look alike.
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I don't have much experience with = mushroom anchors, but my sense is that if they are large enough and = heavy enough they are good for soft bottoms.  (Most of the = referance I've come across has been in regard to permanent moorings in = soft bottoms, with a really heavy mushroom). I have not found small ones = very effective, or for that matter very handy.

Here-to-fore I've =  used a small to medium sized Danforth in hard sand bottoms (at the = "Big Lake" outside Marquette, MI) and in that kind of bottom a = Danforth is great.  But less great in soft bottoms, I've been told. = The small Danforth is good for my P15 in Sacramento riverbottom = up-stream - but down-stream toward the delta, where the bottom is softer = it's harder to set, nor do I trust it very far- though so far it's held = ok in the current. I carry the Danforth in a bracket inside the transom = (under the tiller).

I bought a Fortress #11 - overkill for the = P15, but if I move up sometime to a larger boat I'll take it with it = with me, and for the weight and easy storage it's hard to beat.  I = bought it cheifly for its reputed holding ability in soft mud.  I = used it two summers ago on L. superior in hard sand bottoms, and it held = like a rock in a couple of good blows in fierce surf.

Last fall I = bought a third anchor I saw advertised in "Messing About in = Boats" called the "Bulwagga" which was touted to set = quickly and hold in grassy bottoms. It also looks to me as though it = would be good in rock and boulder bottoms.  I have yet to but it to = a test, other than my back yard where it grabs immediately and digs in. =  Time will tell, but I think the design looks very promising. My = dealing with the inventor/manufacturer/marketer were very cordial and = their service very good.  It's not as easy to stow as the Danforth, = but it's not difficult either.  I'm curious if any others have = taken a look at this anchor - or have had any experience with it. =  As I have an opportunity this summer to really put it to a test = I'll share the results.

I really don't have much occassion to = worry about anchorage with the kind of day sailing I do right now, but I = have never felt really secure without a good anchor on board  (and = chain - don't forget at least 6' of chain) even in a row boat. =  Call it superstition.

Lee Page in Sacramento, CA
WWP = #602, "Archaeopteryx"




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> = From: SolarFry@aol.com
> To: DAVID_KAUTZ@HP-Sunnyvale-om5.om.hp.com
> Cc: wwpotter@tscnet.com
> Subject: Re: anchors
> Date: Saturday, = February 20, 1999 4:21 PM
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> =       West Wight Potter Website at URL =
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> In a message dated 2/19/99 4:51:40 PM Eastern = Standard Time, DAVID_KAUTZ@HP-
> Sunnyvale-om5.om.hp.com writes:
> =
> << Subj: Re: anchors
> =  Date: 2/19/99 4:51:40 PM Eastern Standard Time
> =  From: DAVID_KAUTZ@HP-Sunnyvale-om5.om.hp.com
>  To: wshurr@email.unc.edu
>  CC: wwpotter@tscnet.com
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> =        West Wight Potter Website at = URL
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>  How heavy is the mushroom anchor you = use with your Potter? I bought an 8
>  lb. mushroom anchor = to put inside a plastic "rocker stopper" with plans to =
>  use that as a "lunch drogue". Do you think the = little mushroom anchor might
>  actually hold the boat if = set in mud (of which we have plenty in the South
>  SF = Bay)
>  
>  
>  Dave Kautz
> =  P-15 #1632, Tilly Lucy
>  Palo Alto, CA
> =   >>
>
> I have a 15lb mushroom anchor on = my S13'.  As lond as wind is under 5 MPH and
> no current it = holds OK. Out on ake it wont hold for beans with current pulling
> = toward the intracoastal...  I have to use an 8Lb. Danforth look = alike.

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