RE: [WWP] Fast Pins!!

From: Judith Franklin Blumhorst, DC (DrJudyB@pacbell.net)
Date: Wed Apr 19 2000 - 16:42:04 PDT


The main difference between quick pins is whether they have a hollow core
(the ones with the thumb pushes) or a solid core (the ones without thumb
pushes, but with tiny spring loaded ball bearings at one end).

According to my rigger (who's a well known long distance solo racer who's
life depends upon reliable rigging), the solid cored ones are the best for
shrouds and forestays. They won't crush or deform under extreme compressive
side loads. The hollow ones can get deformed, in which case you may end up
using a hack saw to get them out. They won't fail so as to cause a forestay
or shroud to come free, but they may not be usable afterwards.

Best,
Judy B

PS. Some people, like Greg Yu, have to remove the P19 mast from the boat
in order to fit the boat in the garage. In that case, they have to detach
the side shrouds. Nobody else needs to.

-----Original Message-----
From: chris.beatty@bankofamerica.com [mailto:chris.beatty@bankofamerica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:54 PM
To: WWPotter@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [WWP] Fast Pins!!

Greg Yu's was the first P19 that I heard of disconnecting the shrouds. I
don't
suppose there is much harm in it, but I would prefer not to on Deep Blue.
Basically, you can use a quick pin anywhere you would use a clevis/cotter
pin/ring.

Here's the places where I have seen quick pins often used:
1) Forestay.
2) Boom Vang.
3) Mainsheet block(s).
4) Block and tackle for mast raising.
5) Tiller to rudder.

There are two different types of quick pins. Those with a release and those
without a release mechanism. If you are placing the quick pin on something
which spends time operating in a "slack" situation (boom vang, mainsheet
blocks), you should use a quick pin WITH a release mechanism (more
expensive).
If you are placing the quick pin in something that will have a degree of
constant friction to hold it in place (like a forestay) a quick pin without
release can be used.

Quickpins, for those who don't have the West Marine catalog, are stainless
steel
pins, in various thickness and length that have two tiny ball bearings
mounted
inside to help retain them in the "inserted" position. If they have a
release
mechanism, the ball bearings will withdrawl into the pin when you depress
the
release button-upon releasing the button the bearings are then forced out to
increase the diameter of the pin.

I know, you asked what time it was and I told you how to build a watch,
sorry.

Chris Beatty
P19, #1176, Deep Blue
Alameda, CA

Lewis Baumstark <lbaum@preferred.com> on 04/19/2000 03:30:25 PM

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To: WWPotter@egroups.com
cc: (bcc: Christopher C. Beatty/USA/BAC)
Subject: [WWP] Fast Pins!!

All this talk about fast pins, why do you folks take your stays loose? On
my 15 I take the stays loose when I winterize and put them back on in th
spring. The rest of the time the side stays remain fastened and taped. I
just kinda coil them up with the forestay and bungie them to the mast which
is secured in two homemade crutches (below the pulpit so I can get it into
my garage). The forestay came with a capture pin device so it's easy to
hook up. Is there a need to remove stays especially on the 19's?

Lewis Baumstark
P15
Bristol, Tn.

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